Talk:Trailways of New York

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You weirdos have a useless, irrelevant list of bus models in the fleet, but no company phone number. I realize this is not a directory, but come on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.108.46 (talk) 17:36, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

woman-owned and -led lines a rarity; and drivers

As I recall, Adirondack and Pine Hill Trailways were the only woman-owned intercity bus lines in the U.S., both by the same family (I was told mother and grandmother, respectively), and I think N.Y. state's transportation department used to publish a data book that included owners.

A woman, Cynthia Van Gonsic Berardi, was company President in the 1980s, http://www.trailwaysny.com/html/english/about_ch.asp, as accessed in the last two hours, and I imagine that was also a rarity.

The company's list of million-mile drivers does not appear to include any women: http://www.trailwaysny.com/html/english/about_mmd.asp, as accessed in the last two hours. From what I was told probably in the mid 1980s to early 1990s by a woman who drove for another company, Adirondack had a reputation for being very willing to hire women as drivers, but it was hard to get in. That may be somewhat confirmed by a man who drove for yet another company and who had been an Adirondack driver before quitting: after 14 years he still didn't have enough seniority for a regular route that would let him go home instead of to a hotel at a day's end. So I guess many drivers didn't like to leave the company.

Maybe someone has a published source.

Nick Levinson (talk) 17:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

persuaded competitor to settle strike

Safeway Trails, a subsidiary of Continental Trailways, was on strike for years, using strikebreaker drivers. I was told by a driver that what ended the strike was Adirondack Trailways, a separately-owned franchise, securing Federal (Interstate Commerce Commission, which then authorized routes) authority to operate a service between New York City and Washington, D.C., the authority for part of the route coming directly from the ICC and the other part from another bus company that wasn't using their authority. The service would have directly competed against Safeway, which mainly served the N.Y.C.-D.C.-Philadelpha, Penna., triangle, as well as against Greyhound. The new service might have included one stop. It didn't start because the strike settled.

Maybe there's a published source.

Nick Levinson (talk) 17:21, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

In what time period? Here's an article from a strike against Trailways by the UTU in 1972 2,500 Are Inconvenienced By Safeway Bus Strikes I think, as the history gets fleshed out, we'll at least want to include the strike of 1972 in the Trailways of NY article.

Possible sources from newspaper archives

Keeping a running list for sources in the "lost" middle yearsKevinCuddeback (talk) 01:43, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

1. Eugene Berardi Obituary (11 January 1976) Eugene J. Berardi, 43, Pres. & Ceo
2. Bus Strike (5 April 1972) 2500 Are Inconvenienced By Safeway Bus Strikes

old fleet

The Adirondack fleet used to include GMC models in the 1960s and 1970s, looking like the PD-4106 and I think the PD-4104, and I saw maybe a dozen or more transit buses with Adirondack livery parked in an open lot in or very near Albany, New York, probably in the 1960s; I think they were being stored in hope of being sold. It also included Belgian-made American Eagles, silver and gold; the gold one(s) were for a premium service (on-board stewardess and I think refreshments) between Albany and New York City a couple of times a day (nonpremium service was hourly during the daytime). According to a driver, Adirondack buses had power steering while Greyhound, with similar models, didn't and during a pre-hiring test by Adirondack a Greyhound driver nearly went off the highway in a turn (I think an exit or entrance ramp) because he wasn't used to power steering at Greyhound and the tester laughed. I don't have sources or photos. Nick Levinson (talk) 02:06, 7 January 2018 (UTC)