Jonathan Larken
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Lucerne Capital Management
edit You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Lucerne Capital Management
editI understand your continued attempts to update Lucerne Capital Management's AUM are in good faith however, you will continue to be reverted by myself along with other editors until you provide a reliable source confirming the company's assets under management. Meatsgains(talk) 00:45, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
- Considering how many times you've been reverted Jonathan Larken, I'd suggest you not edit the article directly and instead request it on the talk page. Praxidicae (talk) 18:36, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
I have now been able to find a RS for the updates made to AUM. - JL
- No, you need independent reliable sources, not something self-published. Meatsgains(talk) 00:16, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- I understand where you are coming from and that independent reliable sources are required for edits of this nature. If you'll allow me to please provide some clarity on this. The article we've cited was an "Investor Insight" printed in the online publication of ValueInvestor (https://valueinvestorinsight.com/Content_Premium/investor-insight-continental-divide-june-2019.aspx) - unfortunately this content was available for subscribers of the publication. We've therefore purchased the rights to distribute the content and have posted in on our own website. I can see the confusion asthe document is housed on a Lucerne Capital domain, however this is a in fact a very reputable 3rd party investment publication. It comes out monthly and is subscription based. Jonathan Larken (talk) 11:51, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Subscription-based sources can technically be used if they include the parameter
|url-access=subscriptionas part of the citation. More information on how to cite them is at Template:Cite web#Deprecated and Help:Citation Style 1#Registration or subscription required. - Of course, all of this is moot if it's not possible to determine if the source is reliable (established reputation for fact-checking, editorial oversight, and independence from the topic under discussion). --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:06, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Can someone please sign off on the reliability of Value Investor Insight so we can use them as a source? In Aug 2018 - Value Investor Insight was listed as #12 of the "Top 17 Value Investing Blogs You Should Be Reading" according to Forbes[1]
Value Investor Insight's President and as the Editor-in-Chief is John Heins - who is a well experienced investment professional, writer, as well as an academic[2], taking an role as the C.T. Fitzpatrick Professor of Value Investing at the University of Alabama. Furthermore, Mr. Heins graduated magna cum laude with a bachelor’s degree in Economics from the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School and received an M.B.A. from Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business.[3] Jonathan Larken (talk) 16:55, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- You could ask a question at WP:RSN - you'd need to explain what content you wanted to support, or whether you were looking to use that source to establish notability. GirthSummit (blether) 17:18, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking this to RSN. I'll leave that discussion for editors experienced in the area to comment on; please note though that, regardless of the outcome of that discussion, you should not make any further edits to the article yourself. You should request that any edits you think necessary be made on the talk page, providing the relevant source, and (assuming that RSN looks favorably on your source), linking to the RSN discussion. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 22:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)