Torturella

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BLP question/comment and Spoilers?

Hi Charles: Thank you for welcoming me to the editing world of Wiki*. I have made many anonymous minor edits previously and signed up so I could send a comment to a "Spoiler". Is a spoiler someone who reveals the outcome of something before all potential viewers/readers have a chance to view/read about it through the normal channels? My particular "beef" was concerning Survivor Samoa and the finale on December 20th. I live in San Francisco and near the beginning of the two hour finale I went to the Wiki page of a list of all Survivor contestants to read up on someone. Some editor in the eastern part of the country, at least 2 hours ahead of the Pacific time zone, posted the winner's name thus ruining the surprise for me and perhaps others. To a lesser degree, the same thing happened last night with the results of the first person being ejected in the new Survivor season being posted before the west coast had a chance to see it. The editor's response was, "If you don't want to see it, don't go there". A logical response... My analogy was, "If you witnessed the death of a very famous person, would you rush to post that information on their Wikipedia biography page before family members had a chanced to be informed"? Response: "if I don't post it someone else will". Concerning biographies of living persons: The thing I have liked so much about Wikipedia is the biographies. Sometimes the only place I can find anything about a person is on Wikipedia and now editors want to delete some of these bios because of reasons like,

   "Insignificant notability; only placed 5th on reality TV and had minor roles."

So what. Is computer memory in such short supply that the "Shane Powers" bio should be deleted? I'm glad I read his before he is relegated back into anonymity. And from what I read, there are 45,000 other insignificant biographies that "need" deleting. This isn't a matter of lead type and ink costs. His eight lines must cost one bazillionth of a cent to store. My vote is to leave biographies alone if they have the remotest significance... i.e. more than 10,000 people are aware of their existence or some other benchmark number like that. This seems like a lot of "make work" for editors. What next, eliminate the Wiki-pages of towns that have less than so many residents? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torturella (talk • contribs) 04:43, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

There are a lot of debates on the wikipedia on a huge range of topics like those you mention, and you are more than welcome to take part in them. Many are very complicated issues with many opposing view points. Our community is open to new editors. Everyone involved with Wikipedia is the same as you and me. Just normal people who are working to build an encyclopedia, and we get together and make the rules and guidelines as situations arise. There are several important policies that affect articles like the ones you mention. There are WP:Notability, WP:BLP, and WP:Verifiability. These are very important because if we put something out there that is far off from the truth, the person it effects can take legal action against the foundation. And as I mentioned the foundation is essentially average people like us with not a whole lot of money to give up in lawsuits. So we try to take precautions to prevent that from happening.

In regards to your mentions of spoilers, you may also want to check out the guideline for that at WP:Spoilers. The talk page of that policy would be the best place to air you concerns. Every policy and guideline can be changed here, it is just a matter of building a consensus among others to change it. I am not a regular editor of articles where a spoiler would be involved and don't particularly have an opinion on it. If you have any more questions feel free to ask! Happy edditing. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 14:56, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

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You don't need to sign your edit summaries. They are attached to your edit, and besides the coding doesn't work. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 15:58, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

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