Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liechtenstein national badminton team
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:11, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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No evidence of notability, one local article in Liechtenstein, otherwise either passing mentions (e.g. the Faroese articles just state that their team beat Liechtenstein, it doesn't give any actual attention to the Liechtenstein team), databases, or non-independent sources (organizers and the like). Fram (talk) 08:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Sports, Badminton, and Liechtenstein. Fram (talk) 08:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Relevant as national badminton team, at least same notability as the mentioned teams under participants in Football at the 2023 Island Games. National badminton championships are held in Liechtenstein since 1986, Badminton Europe member since 1993. Team mentions [1], [2], [3], [4]. --Florentyna (talk) 09:16, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Notability can be assumed as the national team. Sourcing is poor, but does not warrant deletion. I can work on addressing more odious elements in the coming days.TheBritinator (talk) 03:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. It's questionable whether "national team notability can be assumed" in every existing sport. It depends on the sport, and may also depend on the country (if the sport in question receives coverage there). Florentyna partially argues with WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, and not all of the coverage is significant or independent. Geschichte (talk) 06:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 00:58, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete WP:NTEAM is specifically clear that no sports team has "assumed notability": "This guideline does not provide any general criteria for the presumed notability of sports teams and clubs. Some sports have specific criteria. Otherwise, teams and clubs are expected to demonstrate notability by the general notability guideline." None of the sources identified above by Florentyna are secondary. Without evidence of notability this fails WP:GNG. I have had a brief look for sources but have not located significant secondary source coverage. AusLondonder (talk) 16:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No improvements in article since its nomination. Can we see an evaluation of sources brough to this discussion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Delete per NTEAM and AusLondoner Wolfson5 (talk) 22:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NTEAM. Notability must not be assumed. Evidence of notability for this specific team is not clear or reliably sourced. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Slightly weak merge into Liechtenstein § Sports, adding any above-decent sources while we're at it. (The sport we're discussing here reminds me of an English-dubbed Shimajiro episode I came across months back--but that's besides the point here. [Suffice to say I'm one of this anime's few fans in the West.]) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 17:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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