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List of Green Bay Packers team records (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A high-level overview of Green Bay Packers team records. Note, per WP:NOTSTATS, I tried to stick to the most notable and commonly reported records, and avoided to the best of my ability to dive too much into sports almanac or statbook territory. As always, happy to address any concerns. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man im josh
editDrive by comments, I'll be back for a full review later on:
- A number of these year ranges use 4 digits for the second part of the range while others only use 2 digits.
- Under the team achievements section, most of the items in that should be changes to title case (I'll call it out more specifically in the full review depending on what changes are made before I get to it)
- "Single season" vs "single-season" – You used "single season", but most refs tend to use "single-season". I believe "single-season" is correct.
- Rushing touchdowns in a single game, needs an "&" when listing the people
As mentioned, I'll be back for a thorough review. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey man im josh, I addressed all of them except the title case, which I will wait for your full review. Note that if a date range covers a transition from 1999 to 2000, the years should be expanded to 4 digits. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:39, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source review: Passed
- Reliable enough for the information being cited
- Consistent date formatting
- Consistent and proper reference formatting
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
- Spot checks on 10 sources match what they are being cited for
Feedback:
- Ref 6 – Should be Green Bay Packers 2023 instead
- Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- A lot of refs – Shouldn't these be "Green Bay Packers (2023)" instead of "Green Bay Packers 2023"? This isn't a ref format I'm super comfortable or confident in, but, given the source listed above as "Green Bay Packers (2023)", I thought it best if they matched
- No, per the {{Sfn}} template, this is how it is supposed to be. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't particularly LOVE FootballDB.com as a source, but I recognize that PFR is lacking in some of the stats they provide for free. Has footballDB.com ever been evaluated for reliability at any of the relevant boards? I would appreciate a recognized reliable source outside of PFR for statistics.
- I replaced that FootballDB sources. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Team achievements table:
- Downcase "Titles" to "titles" in all of these headers
- Downcase "Wild Card Berths" to "Wild card berths"
- Downcase "Playoff Appearances" to "Playoff apperances"
- Downcase "NFL Title Game Appearances" to "NFL Title Game appearances"
- Downcase "Super Bowl Appearances" to "Super Bowl appearances"
- Downcase "All-time Record" to "All-time record"
- Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Single-game records -> Kicking -> Field goals made – Wikilink Ryan Longwell and Mason Crosby
- Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- A number of these "seasons leading the league in xyz" under the notable records section could be wikilinked to the annual lists in Category:Lists of National Football League annual leaders, particularly for the instances where it's an NFL record.
- Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you calling out ties for NFL records? I see ties / most recent person to accomplish a feat listed for non-records. I'm looking at most safeties in a season specifically, where there's apparently been 19 other players who have also accomplished 2 safeties in a single season. Another example would be longest reception (99 yards).
- I am not doing that. Do you think it is necessary? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Other notable records -> Offense -> Most seasons leading league in lowest interception percentage – Should call out minimum number of attempts to qualify.
- The source doesn't provide this. My assumption is that each season had to qualify, but that would likely be OR. Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Other notable records -> Offense -> Most seasons leading league in receiving yards – Stray "pg 292" in text which looks like it was meant to be in the ref
- Deleted. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Note i, for sacks becoming an official stat in 1982 – Can you tweak this note to state whether this is counting that or not? I know we have stats available for 1960–1981, and though these are unofficial, we both know the NFL and teams often count them as if they were. Could be a useful clarifying point, though, it looks like it doesn't make a difference to who holds the record.
- Clarified. The Packers restrict these totals to post-1982, so I will here too. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Career records -> Special teams -> Yards per punt (net) – What's the threshold to qualify? I'll note that PFR uses a threshold of 250 punts for career punting stats, which would mean it probably should be Tim Masthay for this as well
- Added threshold and fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Single-season records -> Offense -> QB rating – No qualifying threshold stated.
- Added threshold. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Use "&" instead of a comma to separate the two players, as it looks like that's what you're trying to do throughout.
- Single-game records -> Offense -> Passing -> Attempts
- Single-game records -> Offense -> Passing -> Yards
- Single-game records -> Special teams -> Punting -> Punts
- Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Other notable records -> Offense -> Most consecutive seasons leading league in total touchdowns – Close the brackets
- Brackets closed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that's all I've got, good stuff Gonzo! Please ping me when the above issues have been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the thorough review Hey man im josh. I have addressed everything except two items, where I provided responses. Let me know what you think. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't necessarily think it's necessary to call out when something noted as an NFL record is a tie. I think it might be nice to have it as T-NFL record in the bracket to make it clear, but I won't be a stickler for it. Source review passed, support. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:09, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Image review by Staraction
edit- All images have alt text
- All images are appropriately licensed (WP:AGF on self-published works)
- All images are relevant to the article
- Captions:
- "Blake Martinez set the Packers' record for most tackles in 2019 with 203." -> "Blake Martinez set the Packers' record for most tackles in a single game in 2019 with 203."
- "Billy Howton had 257 receiving yards in a 1956 game, the Packers' record for a single-game."
@Gonzo fan2007 I think that's it from me! Thanks for the nomination, as someone who doesn't follow American football very closely it was an interesting read. Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the image review Staraction! I fixed both captions, although Martinez's record was for a single season, not a single game :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 13:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good! Support on images. Staraction (talk | contribs) 13:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Alavense
edit- Since entering the NFL, the team has won 13 championships (the most in NFL history), including nine NFL Championships prior to 1966 and four Super Bowls, which is inclusive of two additional NFL Championships won during the AFL–NFL merger. - As per MOS:NUMNOTES, "Comparable values nearby one another should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently".
- 40 years later - Figures at the beginning of a sentence should be avoided.
- "phenomena" is the plural of "phenomenon", so a relatively recent phenomena doesn't make sense.
- In the first table, it should say "Ref." as there's only one. Please include the "." and maybe you can use {{abbr}}.
- over a two season period - "a two-season period".
- I see a lack of consistency when it comes to the saxon genitive: Donald Driver holds the Packers record but Davante Adams set the Packers' single-season receiving records. There are several instances of this.
- In the notes, Minimum one attempt per game to qualify but Minimum 1 kick return per game to qualify.
That's all I saw, Gonzo fan2007. Nice work. Alavense (talk) 08:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review Alavense! I implemented the first five bullets and the last one. Regarding the saxon genitive, does there need to be consistency? I often try not to be repetitive, so there is some purposeful change to sentence structure and diction. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the edits. Support. Alavense (talk) 16:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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