Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Paris

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:40, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Paris

Fourteen-year-old stillborn portal.

One selected article, one selected picture and one DYK from 2005. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 07:21, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete without prejudice to a new portal with a design that does not use subpages and with a maintenance plan. Paris is one of the great cities of the world. You wouldn't know it from this portal with two articles. No maintenance since 2006 because there is nothing to maintain. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:02, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note to closing admin. I don't want in any way to prejudge the outcome ... but if you close this discussion as delete, please can you not remove the backlinks? I have an AWB setup which allows me to easily replace them with links to the next most specific portal(s) (in this case Portal:France), without creating duplicate entries. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:24, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seven Great Cities

Title	Portal Page Views	Article Page Views	Percent	Comments	Articles	Notes	Baseline	Deleted	Type
Moscow	11	3766	0.29%	Originator edits sporadically, last in 2018. 12 articles, not updated since 2011.	12		Jun19-Jul19	TRUE	City
Beijing	15	3754	0.40%			Deleted.	Jan19-Feb19	TRUE	City
Tokyo	28	6486	0.43%	Appears to be maintained. Articles are for sum of city and metro area.			Jan19-Feb19	FALSE	City
Paris	36	6485	0.56%	Originator came in 2005, did their thing, went in 2005. Nothing to maintain.	2	Viewings Jan-Jun19 were 36/6593.	Jan19-Feb19	FALSE	City
London	37	15016	0.25%	Greater London = 1797 views			Jan19-Feb19	FALSE	City
Rome	45	4734	0.95%				Jan19-Feb19	TRUE	City
New York City	82	17169	0.48%				Jan19-Feb19	FALSE	City

Delete per the nom and Robert M. This nearly 14-year long abandoned portal obviously and completely fails WP:POG's readership (very few), maintainers (none), number of articles (has two, but needs a minimum of 20), and WikiProject involvement guidelines. None of this is suprising when one knows it was created and dumped by its creator in the span of 15 minutes and three edits. While Paris is a great city of the world, I oppose re-creation, unless a dedicated team of topic-knowledgeable, long-term maintainers with a comprehensive portal building and maintenance plan are behind any re-creation attempt. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:13, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – that table says it all: cities are not good topic for portals. – Levivich 03:51, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, and oppose re-creation. Low readership + minimal content + zero maintenance = clear fail of the WP:POG requirement that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers".

As Levivich notes, cities are not good topic for portals. The last six months of MFDs have repeatedly shown that it is exceptionally rare for even the largest cities in OECD nations to attract enough readers and maintainers to sustain a portal. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:35, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete cities shouldn't have portals period.Catfurball (talk) 19:31, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.