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edit- Legends League Cricket (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Recreation of a deleted article following this AfD. Apparently because the wording and WP:REFBOMBS are different, it cannot be a G4 speedy... Non-notable, just as it was a month and a bit ago, with WP:REFBOMBS and no establishment of WP:GNG. Just because retired players are taking part, doesn't mean notability is inherited. Coverage within the refbombs is routine. AA (talk) 14:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep As I previously commented that the page should not be deleted because this is known cricket league. And In this all are international cricket players. And this is the main page of league not season page and also old league. I think it should be not be deleted because a lot of news references are available.
- PQR01 (talk) 04:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't actually contribute at the last AFD (at least not as this logged in user). But WP:NOTINHERITED applies- just because notable people compete, that doesn't make this event notable. If you didn't like that it was deleted, WP:Deletion review would have been the proper process, not re-creating the article and thus forcing another AFD. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- PQR01 (talk) 04:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete and salt as per my rationale at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Legends League Cricket. Nothing has changed in the 1 month since the last AFD, and re-creating an article after a clear AFD consensus like this is just disruptive. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- World Masters League T20 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another mass-produced article on a non-notable OAP cricket league which fails WP:GNG and WP:OFFCRIC. Just because retired players are taking part, doesn't make this inherently notable. All sources are WP:ROUTINE. AA (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete definitely fails OFFCRIC. I think it's a 50/50 call whether this actually fails the low bar of GNG or not, but I'd want to be 100% confident of meeting GNG to outweigh OFFCRIC. Not salted yet in case it does prove to ultimately have a legacy in its aftermath. Aspirex (talk) 22:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Pro Cricket League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another mass-produced article on a non-notable OAP cricket league which fails WP:GNG and WP:OFFCRIC. Just because retired players are taking part, doesn't make this inherently notable. All sources are WP:ROUTINE. AA (talk) 17:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Gerald Warr (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCRIC and WP:SPORTSCRIT. A search for sources in trove, google news and google books did not yield in depth third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 01:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Queensland first-class cricketers as a valid WP:ATD. In cases like this, speedy redirecting to "List of X cricketers" seems better than starting an AFD. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Junior World Series of Indoor Cricket (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article survived an AfD in 2010, but since then WP:GNG has not further been established, and the article is unreferenced. A quick search reveals little coverage and nothing in depth. Fails WP:OFFCRIC and WP:GNG. AA (talk) 11:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete doesn't meet WP:GNG, so we don't need the article. Just because it sort of survived an AFD in 2010 (it seems to have been removed from the AFD), that isn't a reason to keep. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- UP T20 League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another mass-created minor league which fails WP:GNG and WP:OFFCRIC. Oh, and I better nominate it for deletion, despite the threat not too! AA (talk) 20:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- 2024 Bengal Pro T20 League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Don't need separate season articles for this tournament, as the coverage doesn't warrant it. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep @Joseph2302, It is the largest tournament in East and North East India and it's one of the important leagues in India, I presume after a few years it will have same importance as Tamil Nadu Premier League or KSCA tournament, I believe this article should be kept. Beside that, can you please highlight the main issue in this article other than the coverage. A league can't be famous in just one season, it needs time, and this league had enough coverage being a new league according to what I saw in the internet and from the residents of West Bengal. Wowlastic10 (talk) 11:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Please check the Tamil Nadu Premier League pages, including those dedicated to individual annual editions like the 2022 Tamil Nadu Premier League, 2023 Tamil Nadu Premier League, and 2024 Tamil Nadu Premier League. Separate pages exist for each team as well. Similarly, the Delhi Premier League T20, which is also organized under the directions of Board of Control for Cricket in India BCCI, has gained significant coverage after the successful completion of its seasons. Given this, it would be beneficial for Wikipedia readers to have dedicated pages for each annual edition of the Delhi Premier League T20, as well as individual pages for each team, similar to those for Tamil Nadu Premier League teams like Salem Spartans, Chepauk Super Gillies, and Lyca Kovai Kings.
Note Several Twenty20 pages have existed includimg thier annual leagues for many years, and in my opinion, it is not appropriate to nominate them for deletion.
- List of regional T20 cricket leagues in India
- Andhra Premier League
- Bengal Pro T20 League
- Chhattisgarh Cricket Premier League
- Delhi Premier League T20
- Kerala Cricket League
- Madhya Pradesh League
- Maharaja Trophy KSCA T20
- Maharashtra Premier League
- Odisha Cricket League
- Pondicherry Premier League
- Rajasthan Premier League
- Saurashtra Premier League
- Sher-E-Punjab T20 Cup
- UP T20 League
It appears that certain teams are selectively promoting specific and state-level leagues while pushing for the deletion of others. This practice seems to favor the retention of pages related to their preferred leagues, potentially at the expense of others.
Wikipedia is a global platform that should uphold the principle of equality for all pages that have significant coverage. It's important to ensure that all state and national leagues with significant covearge, regardless of their popularity or backing, are treated fairly and given the opportunity to be represented. Consistent and unbiased application of Wikipedia's guidelines is crucial to maintaining its integrity as a reliable and inclusive source of information. Davidrun99 (talk) 10:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. None of the above keep reasons offer any reasoning whatsoever, just "these exist, so this should too". Clearly, this tournament also fails WP:GNG and consists wholly of WP:NOTSTATS. AA (talk) 14:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I haven't told that Just because other tournament exists, this too shall exist. The Tamil Nadu premier league season pages exist because we have given them time. Why don't we give time to this article? Please Highlight how can I save this article rather than demotivating. Thank you! Wowlastic10 (talk) 10:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The league is not notable (even majority of the players) or noteworthy enough nationally or internationally to warrant a page on. Fails WP:GNG. No need for separate page when most of the WP:CFORK is from Bengal Pro T20 League RangersRus (talk) 15:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- please give suggestions to save this article. I will start research and find all necessary website articles for it. Thank you! Wowlastic10 (talk) 10:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Wowlastic10 not commenting on this but basically what you need is 3 reliable sources with significant coverage; i.e. three news articles from different outlets, independent of the tournament, and not almost-entirely derived from official press releases, giving a couple paragraphs on it would likely work. Strictly you only need "multiple reliable sources" but 3 is the usual amount. I think the article *might* have this now, but I can't tell? Wikipedia notability really isn't supposed to be about how important something is, but how much writing exists on it. Mrfoogles (talk) 19:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- please give suggestions to save this article. I will start research and find all necessary website articles for it. Thank you! Wowlastic10 (talk) 10:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, Guidelines / Standards for Establishing Wikipedia Notability for State Cricket Leagues:
In my opinion, establishing clear guidelines for creating Wikipedia articles related to state cricket leagues is essential to ensure they meet the notability criteria and have a lasting presence on the platform. To pass the Wikipedia General Notability Guidelines WP:GNG and retain annual league and team articles, I propose the following criteria:
Completion of Multiple Seasons: State leagues, such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League, should successfully complete at least one to three annual league series. This demonstrates consistency, relevance, and the league’s potential for long-term significance in the cricketing landscape.
Involvement of National Players: The state league should feature at least 10 players who have competed in prestigious events such as the Indian Premier League (IPL), national cricket tournaments, or international matches. The presence of such players not only elevates the league's standard but also increases its notability and media coverage.
Minimum Team Requirement and Broadcast Standards: To align with national and international guidelines, the state cricket league should consist of a minimum of six teams. Additionally, the league should be broadcast live on major sports channels like Star Sports, ESPN, or equivalent platforms. This ensures widespread visibility and demonstrates the league’s significance beyond the local level.
By adhering to these guidelines, we can ensure that Wikipedia articles about state cricket leagues are both notable and valuable resources for readers, reflecting the importance of these leagues in the broader context of cricket. Davidrun99 (talk) 23:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just writing the rules/entry criteria for a tournament doesn't mean that it passes WP:GNG, which is the main criteria for whether an article is kept or not (not any of the rules you're making up on this and similar AFDs). Where is the evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources specifically about this season? Joseph2302 (talk) 07:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Alleppey Ripples (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This team plays in a tournament without great coverage, and so we so not require separate team articles. Does not meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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I am also nominating the following related pages for other teams from the same league:
- Trivandrum Royals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Thrissur Titans (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Joseph2302 (talk) 16:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete all. Per nom. AA (talk) 22:39, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Drafty/Merge All There are no significant sources, this is just a team participating in a state cricket league, this event has not been held yet, and the team has not participated in any other tournament, It can be kept as a draft until the event takes place, or Merge into Kerala Cricket League ~~ Spworld2 (talk) 16:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- 2024 Delhi Premier League T20 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another example of a local Indian cricket tournament that doesn't need separate season articles. The fact that the teams are mostly non notable players (with 1-2 exceptions per team) makes it no surprise to me that this season article doesn't pass WP:GNG independently of general coverage about tournament creation which is relevant mainly to the parent article Delhi Premier League T20. We need to stop creating season articles for every local one city or state T20 tournaments with non notable players. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom. AA (talk) 09:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Please check the Tamil Nadu Premier League pages, including those dedicated to individual annual editions like the 2022 Tamil Nadu Premier League, 2023 Tamil Nadu Premier League, and 2024 Tamil Nadu Premier League. Separate pages exist for each team as well. Similarly, the Delhi Premier League T20, which is also organized under the directions of Board of Control for Cricket in India BCCI, has gained significant coverage after the successful completion of its seasons. Given this, it would be beneficial for Wikipedia readers to have dedicated pages for each annual edition of the Delhi Premier League T20, as well as individual pages for each team, similar to those for Tamil Nadu Premier League teams like Salem Spartans, Chepauk Super Gillies, and Lyca Kovai Kings. Davidrun99 (talk) 12:25, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note Several Twenty20 pages have existed includimg thier annual leagues for many years, and in my opinion, it is not appropriate to nominate them for deletion.
- List of regional T20 cricket leagues in India
- Andhra Premier League
- Bengal Pro T20 League
- Chhattisgarh Cricket Premier League
- Delhi Premier League T20
- Kerala Cricket League
- Madhya Pradesh League
- Maharaja Trophy KSCA T20
- Maharashtra Premier League
- Odisha Cricket League
- Pondicherry Premier League
- Rajasthan Premier League
- Saurashtra Premier League
- Sher-E-Punjab T20 Cup
- UP T20 League
Davidrun99 (talk) 12:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:OSE is not a valid reason to keep. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:03, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Unnoteworthy local city league. The league is not notable (even majority of the players) or noteworthy enough nationally or internationally to warrant a page on. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 13:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I would highlight that the population of Delhi, over 28 million people, is more than many countries so to refer to this as a 'Local League' per some contributors above is slightly disingenuous. As the biggest sport in a sizable catchment area with considerable media interest it is clear that this competition, as well as the other state level T20 leagues in India, fulfils Wikipedia's Notability criteria. Bobby2302 (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.13.50.178 (talk) — 185.13.50.178 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Note to Admin: IP 185.13.50.178 signed itself as BobbyB. Maybe same users? BobbyB has only one edit to its account and that was in 2006.
- This IP edit claiming to be another user also looks like an attempt to imitate me (using 2302 and the exact colours of my signature). As well as making no actual claim on why separate season articles should exist (as they seem to be talking about the main tournament articles). Joseph2302 (talk) 17:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry. I was trying to work out how do do a signiture. My comment still stands that the artical should be kept per policy. 185.13.50.219 (talk) 09:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Which policy should it be kept under? Because there is no evidence this passes WP:GNG, which is the main way of determining keeping or deleting of articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:57, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry. I was trying to work out how do do a signiture. My comment still stands that the artical should be kept per policy. 185.13.50.219 (talk) 09:03, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- This IP edit claiming to be another user also looks like an attempt to imitate me (using 2302 and the exact colours of my signature). As well as making no actual claim on why separate season articles should exist (as they seem to be talking about the main tournament articles). Joseph2302 (talk) 17:00, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nom. Another of these local leagues that seem to have been mass-created of late, lacking any notability or substance. Fails WP:GNG and WP:EVENT. Also, suspect IP commenting seems quackers. AA (talk) 18:07, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment, Guidelines / Standards for Establishing Wikipedia Notability for State Cricket Leagues:
In my opinion, establishing clear guidelines for creating Wikipedia articles related to state cricket leagues is essential to ensure they meet the notability criteria and have a lasting presence on the platform. To pass the Wikipedia General Notability Guidelines WP:GNG and retain annual league and team articles, I propose the following criteria:
Completion of Multiple Seasons: State leagues, such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League, should successfully complete at least one to three annual league series. This demonstrates consistency, relevance, and the league’s potential for long-term significance in the cricketing landscape.
Involvement of National Players: The state league should feature at least 10 players who have competed in prestigious events such as the Indian Premier League (IPL), national cricket tournaments, or international matches. The presence of such players not only elevates the league's standard but also increases its notability and media coverage.
Minimum Team Requirement and Broadcast Standards: To align with national and international guidelines, the state cricket league should consist of a minimum of six teams. Additionally, the league should be broadcast live on major sports channels like Star Sports, ESPN, or equivalent platforms. This ensures widespread visibility and demonstrates the league’s significance beyond the local level.
By adhering to these guidelines, we can ensure that Wikipedia articles about state cricket leagues are both notable and valuable resources for readers, reflecting the importance of these leagues in the broader context of cricket. Davidrun99 (talk) 23:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Just writing the rules/entry criteria for a tournament doesn't mean that it passes WP:GNG, which is the main criteria for whether an article is kept or not (not any of the rules you're making up on this and similar AFDs). Where is the evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources specifically about this season? Joseph2302 (talk) 07:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- These are the evidences of significant coverage in reliable sources specifically about this season:
- Delhi Premier League 2024: Full schedule, teams, live streaming details
- DDCA announces inaugural Delhi Premier League
- Delhi Premier League announces JioCinema as official streaming partner, Sports18 as broadcast partner.
- GMR Group sponsors inaugural Delhi Premier League T20, reinforces commitment to Indian Cricket.
- DDCA appoints Virender Sehwag as brand ambassador of inaugural season of Delhi Premier League.
- Vikas265 (talk) 12:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- [1] is WP:ROUTINE coverage about event schedule. [2] is behind a paywall so I cannot analyse, but looks from the first paragraph to be general information not WP:SIGCOV. [3] and [4] are regurgitated press releases from sponsors. [5] is not a reliable source (as per Wikipedia:REPUBLICTV). I'm not saying the parent article should be deleted, just that season articles are not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Some more coverage in reliable sources specifically about this season:
- 1.Delhi Premier League T20, Match 16 Review: Keshav Dabas' fifty powers Central Delhi Kings to five-wicket win over East Delhi Riders.
- 2. Delhi Premier League T20 2024, Match 15 Review: Arya's historic ton leads South Delhi Supertstarz to dominant win over Purani Dilli 6. Vikas265 (talk) 04:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Again, the above are WP:ROUTINE, the sort of coverage matches in my local cricket league in the South of England gets. AA (talk) 11:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- [1] is WP:ROUTINE coverage about event schedule. [2] is behind a paywall so I cannot analyse, but looks from the first paragraph to be general information not WP:SIGCOV. [3] and [4] are regurgitated press releases from sponsors. [5] is not a reliable source (as per Wikipedia:REPUBLICTV). I'm not saying the parent article should be deleted, just that season articles are not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- These are the evidences of significant coverage in reliable sources specifically about this season:
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Owen× ☎ 10:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- 2024 Pondicherry Premier League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Don't need separate season article for this local league, where none of the players are notable. This season article fails WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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- 2024 Delhi Premier League is a local league but you not delete only delete 2024 Pondicherry Premier League why? What's your Problem tell me 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- In fact, that article should also be deleted. The matter is that nobody has yet bothered to spend their time in nominating the article for deletion, as all are volunteers here. RoboCric Let's chat 14:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please I request don't delete indian T20 league articles. Indian Government Policy Wikipedia Block in India
- Because All article delete voilince in india 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 14:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Multiple Articles Tamil Nadu Premier League All Season Not Delete Why? 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 14:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- In fact, that article should also be deleted. The matter is that nobody has yet bothered to spend their time in nominating the article for deletion, as all are volunteers here. RoboCric Let's chat 14:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- i provide multiple sources but you not delete I need 10 day only 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 14:19, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: this IP user has been WP:Canvassing on user's talkpages: [6], [7], [8]. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- 2024 Delhi Premier League is a local league but you not delete only delete 2024 Pondicherry Premier League why? What's your Problem tell me 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 13:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: @Joseph2302: Shouldn't the parent article Pondicherry Premier League also be deleted? I don't think that one to be notable either per WP:GNG. RoboCric Let's chat 14:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- No Don't Remove first remove Tamil Nadu Premier League 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 14:15, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- i live in Pondicherry please not Delete 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 14:20, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- 2024 Top End T20 Series local tournament but you not delete only you delete Indian what's your Problem indian league are you Pakistan 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 14:22, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am not from Pakistan. And stop spreading communal hatred. I'll keep saying everything which are legitimate. No matter if the article is from India or not, and nobody even bothers if you're from Pondicherry or not. RoboCric Let's chat 14:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ok Thanks For you Information i request please delete this list.
- 2409:40E5:1017:2724:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 14:34, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you want these articles to be considered for deletion, you have to make a separate bundled AFD nomination. Just mentioning them in the middle of an AFD discussion will lead to nothing happening. You have to read the instructions at WP:AFD, CAREFULLY, and formally go through the nomination process. Liz Read! Talk! 05:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would support an AFD discussion on these, however not here, as it would make this too unwieldly. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:25, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you want these articles to be considered for deletion, you have to make a separate bundled AFD nomination. Just mentioning them in the middle of an AFD discussion will lead to nothing happening. You have to read the instructions at WP:AFD, CAREFULLY, and formally go through the nomination process. Liz Read! Talk! 05:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am not from Pakistan. And stop spreading communal hatred. I'll keep saying everything which are legitimate. No matter if the article is from India or not, and nobody even bothers if you're from Pondicherry or not. RoboCric Let's chat 14:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm relisting this discussion as there is discussion but no actual "votes", as they are used in AFDs, regarding what should happen with this article. We have one editor who is insistent that this page not be deleted and asks for more time to work on the article so this relist can offer a short delay on closure. But we really need more opinions for editors who browse through AFD discussions.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:59, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Another mass created non-notable league. Fails WP:GNG. AA (talk) 22:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Please check the Tamil Nadu Premier League pages, including those dedicated to individual annual editions like the 2022 Tamil Nadu Premier League, 2023 Tamil Nadu Premier League, and 2024 Tamil Nadu Premier League. Separate pages exist for each team as well. Similarly, the Delhi Premier League T20, which is also organized under the directions of Board of Control for Cricket in India BCCI, has gained significant coverage after the successful completion of its seasons. Given this, it would be beneficial for Wikipedia readers to have dedicated pages for each annual edition of the Delhi Premier League T20, as well as individual pages for each team, similar to those for Tamil Nadu Premier League teams like Salem Spartans, Chepauk Super Gillies, and Lyca Kovai Kings.
Note Several Twenty20 pages have existed includimg thier annual leagues for many years, and in my opinion, it is not appropriate to nominate them for deletion.
- List of regional T20 cricket leagues in India
- Andhra Premier League
- Bengal Pro T20 League
- Chhattisgarh Cricket Premier League
- Delhi Premier League T20
- Kerala Cricket League
- Madhya Pradesh League
- Maharaja Trophy KSCA T20
- Maharashtra Premier League
- Odisha Cricket League
- Pondicherry Premier League
- Rajasthan Premier League
- Saurashtra Premier League
- Sher-E-Punjab T20 Cup
- UP T20 League
It appears that certain teams are selectively promoting specific and state-level leagues while pushing for the deletion of others. This practice seems to favor the retention of pages related to their preferred leagues, potentially at the expense of others.
Wikipedia is a global platform that should uphold the principle of equality for all pages that have significant coverage. It's important to ensure that all state and national leagues with significant covearge, regardless of their popularity or backing, are treated fairly and given the opportunity to be represented. Consistent and unbiased application of Wikipedia's guidelines is crucial to maintaining its integrity as a reliable and inclusive source of information. Davidrun99 (talk) 10:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
It's important to ensure that all state and national leagues with significant covearge, regardless of their popularity or backing, are treated fairly and given the opportunity to be represented.
This is factually incorrect, articles are only created and kept if they meet WP:GNG, which requires significant coverage in reliable sources. "regardless of their popularity or backing" criteria does not exist for Wikipedia. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete checking the refs and doing a BEFORE search, I couldn't find any prose reference which described the final, just scorecard websites. Including ESPNCricinfo which had scorecard only, no report. So there's not only no WP:SIGCOV, there's not even any WP:ROUTINE of the biggest game. Fails GNG. Aspirex (talk) 08:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Aspirex, GNG fail lacking significant coverage. Daniel (talk) 05:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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Declined prod. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NCRIC. A player is unlikely to be notable with just 1 first class game. LibStar (talk) 23:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Cricket, and Australia. LibStar (talk) 23:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep verging on speedy. Nom fails to raise a case of why deletion is required when in the prod decline a valid alternative to deletion was directly identified, "a redirect to the List of Queensland first-class cricketers" WP:ATD-R. duffbeerforme (talk) 06:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- How does he meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, WP:NCRIC or indeed WP:BIO? Failing the relevant notability is grounds for deletion, that's based on my 17 years in WP. LibStar (talk) 06:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Obvious redirect to List of Queensland first-class cricketers. I did already suggest this to the nom, not only when I declined the prod but on a message at their talk page, and I'd have been perfectly happy with a bold redirect here or a discussion at the cricket wiki project followed by that. This is the long established consensus with articles about cricketers where sources cannot be found: it dates back to 2018 at least and is a clear ATD. Ideally we'd get a short note added - the content of the paragraph including the Hope quote would form the basis of this which would allow references to come across as well. Having looked for more sources, there's bit there but the only one that hinted at detail was behind a paywall and I'm pretty relaxed about people such as this being redirected if there aren't sources and an ATD exists. The number of matches played is largely irrelevant. If anyone things that they can come up with a quantitative measure to determine a "bight line criteria" for first-class cricketers then good luck to them; I'd be happy to listen to any. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - he has played at the highest level of domestic cricket in Australia and the expansion work done by Hack shows that 'sufficient coverage' exists to meet both WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NCRIC. --JP (Talk) 08:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Neither of those are absolute guidelines. WP:NCRIC clearly says that top domestic level players
may have sufficient coverage
i.e. they also may not like here. WP:SPORTCRIT also asserts the need for coverage, something that this assertion has not provided. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)- They are what the proposer has quoted as the reason for deletion. As I stated the referenced sources qualify as sufficient coverage imo. JP (Talk) 16:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Neither of those are absolute guidelines. WP:NCRIC clearly says that top domestic level players
- Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. A modern day athlete from an english speaking country shouldn't have any problem having significant coverage about him if he was notable. Redirect to List of Queensland first-class cricketers is also acceptable. Alvaldi (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Queensland first-class cricketers as a valid WP:ATD. Doesn't meet WP:GNG so doesn't need a separate article, but redirect to list article is a standard outcome for these types of cricketers. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still no consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:33, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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We don't normally create articles for players playing just 1 first class match. Only primary sources provided. Fails WP:NCRIC. LibStar (talk) 01:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Cricket, and Ireland. LibStar (talk) 01:11, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- The worst case situation here is a redirect to List of Irish first-class cricketers, with a partial merge to a note so that the biographical details and references can be preserved. Given the quality of information at this source the chances are that there are contemporary press records offline that could be used to build a proper biography. Liddle appears to be the go to expert on Irish cricketers and clearly wrote for the ACS on the subject - a set of his biographies can be found here for future reference. It might be worth a keep based on Liddle's biography and the fact that he got a Wisden obituary (which is not a gimme, especially for single appearance players), but I'd rather see something a bit more contemporary in news sources. But it really is redirect at the worst - this is never a delete situation. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 00:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails notability standards; no significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Prof.PMarini (talk) 13:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. International cricketer for a major cricket playing nation. AA (talk) 22:45, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't meet WP:NCRIC. Questionable if Ireland is a major playing nation as they don't play world Test series. LibStar (talk) 04:08, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Considering Ireland were awarded Test status by the ICC in 2017, I'd consider them a major cricketing nation. AA (talk) 15:02, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- They weren't a major cricketing nation in 1920, when this player was around. Whether or not they are now should be irrelevant to determining the notability of someone from 100 years ago. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is no consensus, we have editors arguing to Keep, Delete, Redirect and Merge.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:18, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Irish first-class cricketers, as don't see enough coverage to pass WP:GNG. Fine to merge a small amount of content there too in my opinion. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)