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For Malay Wikisource:

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Change #1023550 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zabe; author: Zabe):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Set timezones for new wikis

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1023550

Change #1023550 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Set timezones for new wikis

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1023550

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-04-24T00:01:00Z] <zabe@deploy1002> Started scap: Backport for [[gerrit:1023550|Set timezones for new wikis (T360310 T360303 T363263 T363256 T363250 T363243 T363270)]], [[gerrit:1023528|Update interwiki cache]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-04-24T00:03:43Z] <zabe@deploy1002> zabe: Backport for [[gerrit:1023550|Set timezones for new wikis (T360310 T360303 T363263 T363256 T363250 T363243 T363270)]], [[gerrit:1023528|Update interwiki cache]] synced to the testservers (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mwdebug)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-04-24T00:14:56Z] <zabe@deploy1002> Finished scap: Backport for [[gerrit:1023550|Set timezones for new wikis (T360310 T360303 T363263 T363256 T363250 T363243 T363270)]], [[gerrit:1023528|Update interwiki cache]] (duration: 13m 56s)

Pppery updated the task description. (Show Details)
Pppery moved this task from Untriaged to Post-creation tasks on the Wiki-Setup board.
Soda subscribed.

We probably need to add support for mswikisource to wsstats.toolforge.org as well.

Change #1030537 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zabe; author: Zabe):

[mediawiki/services/restbase/deploy@master] Add new wikis to RESTBase

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1030537

Change #1030537 merged by Hnowlan:

[mediawiki/services/restbase/deploy@master] Add new wikis to RESTBase

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1030537

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-05-15T15:43:03Z] <hnowlan@deploy1002> Finished deploy [restbase/deploy@92abb6a]: Deploying new wikis T360304 T360311 T363244 T363250 T363257 T363264 T363271 (duration: 16m 52s)

Hi, our community from Malay Wikisource is curious about normally who will be in charge of the configuration for the namespaces, logos and wordmarks? Will the configuration of the namespaces, logos and wordmarks done together with other wikis created this year (and does it mean that we need to wait for all wiki import work to be done), or the configuration could be setup at anytime independent from the creation of other wikis?

Hi, our community from Malay Wikisource is curious about normally who will be in charge of the configuration for the namespaces, logos and wordmarks? Will the configuration of the namespaces, logos and wordmarks done after all the wiki import task done, or the configuration could be setup at anytime?

Nobody in particular is in charge. Y'all will need to follow the general steps outlined in Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes

Hi, our community from Malay Wikisource is curious about normally who will be in charge of the configuration for the namespaces, logos and wordmarks? Will the configuration of the namespaces, logos and wordmarks done after all the wiki import task done, or the configuration could be setup at anytime?

Nobody in particular is in charge. Y'all will need to follow the general steps outlined in Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes

I see, thank you for your immediate response. We will proceed with the steps listed on the page Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes.

Hi, our community from Malay Wikisource is curious about normally who will be in charge of the configuration for the namespaces, logos and wordmarks? Will the configuration of the namespaces, logos and wordmarks done after all the wiki import task done, or the configuration could be setup at anytime?

Nobody in particular is in charge. Y'all will need to follow the general steps outlined in Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes

Are you saying these unchecked items in the task description have to be requested separately by the wiki community? I thought they were already "in the pipeline" to be done.

Hi, our community from Malay Wikisource is curious about normally who will be in charge of the configuration for the namespaces, logos and wordmarks? Will the configuration of the namespaces, logos and wordmarks done after all the wiki import task done, or the configuration could be setup at anytime?

Nobody in particular is in charge. Y'all will need to follow the general steps outlined in Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes

Are you saying these unchecked items in the task description have to be requested separately by the wiki community? I thought they were already "in the pipeline" to be done.

My understanding is that if any custom namespaces or different logo oe wordmarks are desired those must be handled with a seperate request.

My understanding is that if any custom namespaces or different logo oe wordmarks are desired those must be handled with a seperate request.

I'm not sure the people who need to know that, know that.

It looks like these "post-creation" tasks are just languishing indefinitely: 15 such tasks remain open since August 2023. Something needs to change so wikis that need those things done can get them done in a timely manner, and the ones that don't need them done can have the items crossed off or removed from the checklist in a timely manner.

As things stand, I don't know how anyone is supposed to know what actually needs to be done and what doesn't.

I have been ticking off done items from the checklists. The biggest delayer is Countervandalism-Network - nothing has been done there since August 2023, and about half of the post-creation tasks are pending only that. But I have no idea what to do to cause that to be done.

I suspect the workflow would be better if the bot created a "initial configuration" task and tagged it with Wikimedia-Site-requests since that board seems to be monitored properly (this task can't be added there because Wiki-Setup is a subproject of it)

We currently have a two-step process where the second step is taking forever (to be marked as resolved, anyway). It seems to me that the second step here needs to be split into those tasks that always need to be done and are necessary for the wiki to be usable and look "non-broken" to the community, vs. those tasks that may or may not need to be done for a given wiki and/or are "nice to have".

I have been ticking off done items from the checklists. The biggest delayer is Countervandalism-Network - nothing has been done there since August 2023, and about half of the post-creation tasks are pending only that. But I have no idea what to do to cause that to be done.

By the looks of CVNBot#Control_commands somebody with ops on the #cvn-* channels needs to run the load wiki command.

Mentioned in SAL (#countervandalism) [2024-07-03T01:54:48Z] <AntiComposite> add ms.wikisource to CVNBot9 (T363250)

Zabe changed the edit policy from "Custom Policy" to "All Users".

Hi, I would like to ask is there anything that we could do regarding "Clean up old interwiki links"?

Some local admin should remove

[[en:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage header template]]
[[fr:Modèle:Proofreadpage header template]]
[[it:Template:Proofreadpage header template]]
[[pl:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage header template]]

from https://ms.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_header_template&action=edit

That seems to be the cause of most of the remaining old interwiki links, and is cascading to cause unrelated works to interwiki to the proofreadpage header template of other wikis.

Some local admin should remove

[[en:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage header template]]
[[fr:Modèle:Proofreadpage header template]]
[[it:Template:Proofreadpage header template]]
[[pl:MediaWiki:Proofreadpage header template]]

from https://ms.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_header_template&action=edit

That seems to be the cause of most of the remaining old interwiki links, and is cascading to cause unrelated works to interwiki to the proofreadpage header template of other wikis.

Okay, I have removed them out.

Pppery updated the task description. (Show Details)

I've cleaned up a few remaining interwiki links. This now looks done.